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Jamie Fellrath

My understanding of this rule was that there had to be two players (or the ball) even to or between the player and the goal line. In this case, isn't there only one player between Van Nistelrooy and the goal line since Panucci is behind the goal line?

BUT THAT'S THE POINT, JAMIE. PANUCCI IS STILL CONSIDERED TO BE ON THE FIELD, SINCE HE NEVER RECEIVED PERMISSION TO LEAVE. AND REMEMBER THAT THE BOUNDARY LINES DEFINE THE FIELD FOR THE BALL, NOT FOR THE PLAYERS.

Or, since he could come back in any time (current condition of the player is not a concern) is he considered to be sort of de facto ON the goal line?

Snuffleupagus

I knew there had to be a player keeping the holland player onside, which of course the main cameras didn't pick up. Thanks for the reverse view.

Jim Gilbert

Wow, that's really obscure. What's the difference between this and an offensive player that would've been in an offside position deliberately stepping off the field to show that (s)he's not in active play on a quick reversal in possession? I can't imagine the "Ref, mind if I step out?" "OK" sequence being played out in a timely enough fashion.

Eric

The difference is that an attacking player's involvement is consideration for offside whereas a defender's involvement is not. Therefore, an attacker stepping off the field would clearly indicate that he is not a consideration for offside, whereas a defending player stepping off the field (eg. for an injury) would not change the offside situation. Note that in neither case does the player need to ask permission to leave the field, it is considered implicit. The attacker, though, would need to ask permission to return.

NOT SO, ERIC, BECAUSE "THE FIELD" FOR THE PLAYERS IS LARGER THAN FOR THE BALL. A FORWARD WHO STAYS OVER THE GOAL-LINE AT A CORNER-KICK (TO SHOW NON-PARTICIPATION) WOULD NOT HAVE TO ASK PERMISSION TO RETURN.

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