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Ted

I am taking license to tweak your example from above. I had a similar game situation as the model in the picture, with an exception of instead of the cross being taken by the head into the near post, the cross was a shot to the far post where the player in the offside position decided to attempt to kick the ball but failed to reach it.

I was not as 'deep' as the referee in the picture but I was inside the penalty area. The assistant raised his flag and I decided the attempt put the player firmly in the area of being involved with active play. So we gave the indirect free-kick.

What would you have done?

[Since he neither interfered with an opponent, nor gained any advantage I would have let it go. RE]

Dennis Wickham

Why do we still have "gain an advantage" as an element for Law 11?

If a player is (1) in an offside position, and (2) touches the ball, then the player has interfered with play.

[Yes. RE]

It appears that "gained an advantage" has the same two elements and adds a third, the deflection.

[And the rebound from the post. RE]

So long as deflection doesn't change offside position, "interfering with an opponent" and "gaining an advantage" seem to cover the same situation.

[But gaining an advantage does not necessarily involve interfering with an opponent, but does involve interfering with play. RE]

For the math nerds:

If A = B + C
and
If A = B + C + D,
Then, D = 0.

r mccain

Bob _ do you remember that awful experiment with the offside line painted _ was it 30 meters?

[Yes, I remember it. It was 35 yards, and brings to mind the phrase "Law of unintended consequences" we use in scientific experimentation. Shortening the offside area widened (or deepened) the midfield area. That meant that midfielders had to play in a larger area than is normal for them in "real" soccer. Therefore American midfielders for a time never had to play in that tight, tight midfield space, so never had to develop the control-skills and quick thinking of other nation's players. It was an unintended consequence of a bad experiment. The results of our national team at that time reflect that. RE]

Dennis Wickham

My original post contained a typo. (Sorry.) I meant to say:

So long as a deflection or rebound doesn't change offside position, "interfered with play" and "gained an advantage" seem to cover the same situation.

Is there ever a situation in which one would judge "gained an advantage" but not "interfered with play?"

[Yes, if the player obstructed the view of the goalkeeper at a shot. He would have gained an advantage (and interfered with an opponent), but because he did not play the ball, he would not have interfered with play. It's a bit pedantic, but that's the way they are defining it nowadays. Cheers, Bob.]

Gary Voshol

To follow up on Dennis's points, it seems that "gaining an advantage" is always a subset of "interferes with play" or "interferes with an opponent". A Venn diagram would have two distinct circles labeled interfering with play/opponent respectively. Inside those circles would be two smaller circles, each labeled gaining an advantage.

Is there any circumstance where gains an advantage covers unique territory not covered by either interferes situation?

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